Ok my girl is attracting so much man meat it’s unreal.
I’ve been sitting in the same place for the last 8 hours of my life and I’m not happy about it.
I feel you
WHO ARE YOU?
CHLOE JUST BROKE OUR ROOMMATE CONTRACT
you fuckin liar
CHLOE DID YOU BREAK OUR ROOMMATE CONTRACT?
my skype picture is an appropiate reaction to everything.
I wrote three drafts of this so far, because this is an incredibly tough question. There is a post from Noah Bradley going around about not needing to go to art school anymore, and I agree with a lot of it! But I don’t believe that’s the right answer for ALL people.
I think that this is very much a case by case basis.
Are your parents paying for school and it’s not going to bankrupt them? Go to a GOOD art school (if you can’t get in to a good art school DON’T WASTE YOUR PARENTS’ MONEY UNTIL YOU CAN????)
Are you good working by yourself, can constantly keep yourself on task, and have a clear direction and idea of where you need to be to make it? Go it alone and take art courses online, talk to local artists and artists you admire online, go to conventions to network with people, etc— you’re already doing what you need to be doing.
Don’t fit in either category? That’s where the art school question becomes dicey.
I agree that going to art school is expensive; the first school I went to (and quit after a year) was private. But I think that there are a lot of artists out there who are fundamentally talented, but need the help of mentors, of other students, of structure and direction in order to be successful. I have a friend of mine who is currently interning at my office who has a hard time with networking— not going to school would have been really tough on her in that aspect, because when she graduates she now has a network of people that she knows that she just wouldn’t have had.
The problem with art schools is that a lot of them coddle their students, flat out lie to their students, or aren’t being realistic at all about their hiring rates. The Centre for Arts and Technology in the Okanagan, my first school, listed hiring rates that were a complete fabrication— they were the hiring rates from CDIS, a Vancouver school that was well known that shut down, and the new CEO of CATO was linked to CDIS. Modmad recently posted about VFS running an ad with her art, with the tagline “Become an animator in only a year” that she had to talk to them about, as she had gone to another school prior to VFS. A new school in Vancouver listed pricing comparisons and quoted Capilano’s 3d animation program costing thousands more dollars than it did, when in reality the 3D program is around 8k for the year (and you get a computer out of the deal— or you did last time I looked) and it was the new VFX program that was super expensive as it’s not subsidized by the government like the other animation programs are.
Always always ALWAYS look at their recent graduates. If they don’t list them on their page? Possibly don’t go to school there— if they aren’t proud of their students, something bad is going on. And be wary of private institutions like AI, who take the best of their programs and tout them on their page, when the actual quality of the average student is very very different.
Capilano posts every last graduate’s work, every year— go take a look at gradshow.com and see what I mean. You actually get an idea of the average of the class, the best students and the worst students (though honestly there weren’t any worst students this year, capilano is getting REAL HARD to get in to these days) which to me, is super important!
A lot of student’s graduate from programs run by institutions looking to make a quick buck off of young “artsy fartsy” kids that don’t know any better and have no idea they should want, and deserve, more than they are given in way of education. I’ve had people ask me how to get work at studios I don’t even have a single chance at, and to me, the easiest thing is to go look at work by their current staff and DO AS GOOD AS OR BE BETTER. But a lot of people are still in the sort of dream phase, rather than goal phase— it’s their DREAM to work at Pixar rather than it’s their goal— perhaps a weird distinction to make, but a pretty important one. If you dream about working somewhere, there’s no work involved! It’s an easy daydream about what could be and how good that will feel! I have been there. I used to exclusively draw anime and dream about working at Pixar and those two things don’t quite match!
On the other hand, if it’s your GOAL to work at pixar, you can work out the path you need to take understanding that you have to work hard to achieve it. There’s a time constraint put on it, and the onus is on you to achieve it, not up to John Lassetter to drive Lightning McQueen up to your driveway and tell you to get in, you are directing Pixar presents Sailor Moon and you sing Life is a Highway gaily down the road.
I think a lot of students enter school when they’re still in the dream state and no one gives them a realistic idea just how hard it is to get a job. Hell, it took me five years to get a job because of how bad the market was!
It took me five years to make it, and it was a very very frustrating five years, of me working my butt off to get better at art, sending my portfolio to places and getting no response. Even with going to a school with a good local reputation like Capilano, having a cool network of people who supported me (I had a bunch of people literally recommending me for jobs that I had zero qualifications for because they wanted to give me a chance), it took sending a portfolio to a cool acquaintance, whining about how I didn’t understand why I couldn’t even get a design test and him just sending my portfolio out as a recommendation to get my first job (Eternally grateful, Tony)— it took posting a random picture on facebook, having a cool concept artist friend of mine commenting on it, and one of his friends seeing my work to land me my full time job.
Neither of those things had to do with me going through the usual means of getting work. So I don’t really think there’s a right answer. I think there’s a multitude of answers, some right and some wrong.
To me, going to art school should be thought about thoroughly and the pros and cons considered. If you can’t afford it, and have to take out numerous loans, and you aren’t going to one of the big schools? Perhaps consider taking a year or two off to work and try to do things yourself before going in to hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt on a school that doesn’t deserve your money.
Going to art school isn’t worth having that much debt unless you are sure that you can make it— and a lot of students go to art school because they AREN’T sure they can make it. Or have an unrealistic, or no idea, what it actually does take to make it.
It’s a damn shame that we put so much pressure on these young kids who have no idea how the world works for the most part to decide on the rest of their lives, and have hundreds of thousands of dollars hanging over their heads if they make the wrong decision.
It’s a terrible terrible gamble that can be worth it. But a lot of the time it’s not.
(take art classes, contact artists you admire, make up personal projects and work on them, if you want to tell your own stories tell them, don’t wait on anything or anyone, do weekly art challenges, do speedpaintings, do master studies, never give up, never surrender, always try to work better, faster, smarter; learn to take critique but don’t take jealous bashing, and learn the difference; brushes aren’t magical and knowing what brush settings someone uses will not help you all that much, be curious, be inquisitive, don’t say “I won’t draw mecha or men or boats” draw mecha and men and boats, you should never limit yourself, don’t hide hands behind bodies, draw anime if it interests you, don’t draw anime if it doesn’t, find your own style, if it’s anime that’s ok as long as you are incredible and show you can work in other styles and your anatomy isn’t wonk, look at what studios you want to work at and try out their styles etc etc etc)
TL;DR: If you got the money for school and you want to go, go; if you don’t, think about your other options before jumping in to all of the debt. The most debt you’ll have until you buy a house or have kids.
GOOD LUCK TINY BABY ARTISTS, I BELIEVE IN YOU T_T
As a freshman going into art school this fall, I’m extremely grateful for this.